[原创]玩表心经之“死要面子臭不要脸的古董表”

OHSEAL · 发表于 2009-12-8 09:02:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用Stop_Shen在2009-12-7 23:02:00的发言： 
老徐:古欧我还是偏向好壳
因为一般好壳,十有八九都是好芯好面
而好面的,十有八九都是烂壳
要么我对表壳的要求太高???!!!
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朋友的一只好壳,,,

zzwzzw83 · 发表于 2009-12-8 09:02:00

用心的帖子

zzhzj0714 · 发表于 2009-12-8 08:53:00

好帖！          

ll9111 · 发表于 2009-12-7 22:23:00

[em63]

fcts8866 · 发表于 2009-12-7 22:22:00

让人流口水的东东...............

匿名 *发表于 2009-12-7 22:33:00* · 发表于 2009-12-7 22:33:00

很喜欢古董表那种简单就是复杂的意味

legrand · 发表于 2009-12-7 22:29:00

沈兄有默契。
刚到手的？大板陀7##机心。

OHSEAL · 发表于 2009-12-7 22:31:00

超喜欢看L哥的"心经",基本帖帖皆精.
 
曾经有人问,古欧最难得是什么?
有说机芯有说表壳,我说是好面子.
欧的防水做得不十分理想是主因.

S,古劳难得好壳.

legrand · 发表于 2009-12-7 21:47:00

<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: left; MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm" class="MsoNormal" align="left" widow-orphan? mso-pagination: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: mso-margin-top-alt: 0pt; 0cm="0cm" 0cm?>Conclusion<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com

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<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: left; MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm" class="MsoNormal" align="left" widow-orphan? mso-pagination: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: mso-margin-top-alt: 0pt; 0cm="0cm" 0cm?>One of the next watches in my modest collection will be a vintage Constellation, and I think I have to be quick because prices are going up fast. I saw this trend again on the last watchfair in Houten (near Utrecht, The Netherlands). Omega always saw their Constellation as the flagship of their collection, and I think the vintage Constellations ranging from 1952-1969 certainly are. They still will do perfectly as a dresswatch, and much more affordable than a Rolex Date for example. I don't think there is much difference between these two brands of the same age, although I can't proof this because my knowledge of Rolex is too little. You can find the Omega Constellation pie-pan models with cal.551 or cal.561/564 (date) starting at very decent prices on the auction websites. The cal.55x and 56x movements are very common and can be replaced or being repared without any major problems I guess.<o:p></o:p>
[译文]结论：对于我来说，下一个小小的收藏愿望将会是古董星座。我想还要快点下手，因为价格上涨的挺快。我发现这一趋势是上一次在荷兰Houten的表展。星座是欧的旗舰系列，在1952—1969年间也同样如此。欧在手表业上依然干得不错，至少他们比劳还下工夫。我想，R和O在同时期上的差别不大，尽管我尚不能证实这点，因为我对R的了解有限。你可以发现551或者561/564机芯的O八卦星座在网站上的起拍价引人注目。另外我想55X，56X系列机芯相当通用，至少没有大毛病的情况下，可以轻易互换或得到维修保养。<o:p></o:p>
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[笔者后记]欧在三十年前绝对是表坛老大，款式多，价格相宜。很多经典款式设计今天依然令人喜不释手，一赏再赏。玩古董欧，在于表壳造型典雅别致，以造型胜出，是老欧的可爱之处。欧虽不如

P，AP，VC，JLC等胜在机芯工艺，但平民级的价格，加上在当时算新颖别致的造型，使之成为当之无愧的收藏逸品。即使不为收藏，洗洗油，又焕发青春，日常佩戴用，至少可以再用十年，而其味道非现代表可以同语。<o:p></o:p>
记得四五年前，18K星座的价格还算可以接受。今天，同样品相的表款，价格上涨接近50%！扣除通涨因素，对应我这样算“高收入”人群说，也不是很痛快。私以为，万五六可以接受，金面加三千，稀有款另计。可惜市场价格不是几个人说了算的，还是那句，量力而为，为之朝思暮想的，下决心拿下，肯定不会亏，以免后悔莫及。18k金的古欧，表壳用金实在，机芯强壮，对比今天“同等”金表，价格只有1/2强，确实划算。<o:p></o:p>
有关欧的古董介绍文章浩若繁星，大家可以随意搜索网络以资参考。
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以下三图为原文附图，祖父级的表，品相十分不堪，看来米国人确实对表的感觉就是表而已！

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legrand · 发表于 2009-12-7 21:47:00

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; TEXT-INDENT: 27pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm" 0cm? 0cm="0cm" 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-char-indent-count: 2.25; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt?>古董本来就是岁月的记录者，有时实在想不透为什么如此在乎那些痕迹，费那么大工夫，金相砂纸磨、擦铜膏擦、锉刀挫、上车床削，十大酷刑，不一而足。好端端一只表，到手时真令人发指，欲哭无泪。想来象我这样理智的，应属凤毛麟角，值得保护。<o:p></o:p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; TEXT-INDENT: 27pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm" 0cm? 0cm="0cm" 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-char-indent-count: 2.25; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt?>另一只同样是564机芯的星座，包金加金肚脐，品相A+，原本造型平常，不说也罢。但突然搜到网上一篇文章，文中所提及的表款与之一模一样，只是品相与俺这只不可同日而语，还有表镜也不一样，俺的有日历放大镜。不管如何，家有宝贝与之同，一只表引发的西方式亲情，文章读来温情无比，诱发强烈的使命感，就亮亮骚吧。<o:p></o:p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; TEXT-INDENT: 27pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm" 0cm? 0cm="0cm" 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-char-indent-count: 2.25; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt?>在下可以拿得出手的老欧实在惭愧，有兴趣而无志于老欧收藏的可以参考某网“低调男人”兄的贴子。<o:p></o:p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; TEXT-INDENT: 27pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm" 0cm? 0cm="0cm" 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-char-indent-count: 2.25; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt?>以下文章译自网站： <o:p></o:p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align="center" 0cm? 0cm="0cm" 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan?>It tells the time. And a few things more. by Robert Jan Broer, Voorburg / Netherlands 6th of Februari 2001. e-mail : <a href="mailto:robertjan@omega-addict.com">robertjan@omega-addict.com</a> / <a href="http://www.omega-addict.com/" target="new">http://www.omega-addict.com/</a><o:p></o:p>
作者出生于1977年，尚嫩，来日方长。文章比较长，就节译一些自己感兴趣的段落吧。<o:p></o:p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm; TEXT-ALIGN: left" align="left" 0cm? 0cm="0cm" 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan?>This Article/Introduction<o:p></o:p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm; TEXT-ALIGN: left" align="left" 0cm? 0cm="0cm" 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan?>This article is a review on my grandfathers wristwatch, which is currently at my house because it needs to be cleaned/serviced. This article starts with some general information and history about the Constellation line from Omega SA. My grandfather is first owner of it and he bought it in 1968 at Kwekkeboom in Enschede (Netherlands) when they were an Omega dealer. He also bought a ladies automatic watch for my grandmother, I think it is a Ladymatic. My greatgrandfather bought a 1965 Omega Constellation (goldcapped) with a cal.551 movement and that one is now on the wrist of my father. That one is a pie-pan model, which was and still is one of the most desired Constellations since 1952.<o:p></o:p>
[译文]以本文回顾我祖父的表，表现在我家里，但需要清洗和保养了。这篇文章从有关欧米茄星座系列的一些普通资料和历史说起。我祖父是在1968年从当时还是欧经销商的荷兰Kwekkeboom店买下它。他同时还买了一只女装表给我祖母，我猜测那是一只Ladymatic款女装自动表。我曾祖父在1965年买了只551机芯的包金星座，这只表现在我父亲手上戴着。那是一只自1952年面世以来为众人所渴求的八卦面款式。<o:p></o:p>
以下一些有关星座的历史和型号，泛泛而谈，就不再赘述。<o:p></o:p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm; TEXT-ALIGN: left" align="left" 0cm? 0cm="0cm" 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan?>I can't say much about the reasons why they bought it, I guess they just wanted to have a good watch. As you can see on the picture above, the bracelet is aftermarket. It is 14kt solid gold, and feels very comfortable (I need some extra links (which my grandfather still has somewhere in a drawer) to make it fit for me personally) but it looks a bit too gaudy on my wrist (I am 23 ;-)). He replaced the original bracelet because the sides of it got rough and ripped all his shirts. He traded in his original bracelet for this one, a much nicer one imo. I don't like the milanese style bracelets at all. The clasp is not a safety buckle as can be seen above, but it will do (you have to make sure that the bracelet isn't too tight so it won't flip open by accident).<o:p></o:p>
[译文]对于买表的原因，我无法了解太多。我猜他们只是想拥有一只好表而已。如图所示，14K金表链是后配的。我祖父更换原配表链是因为它的边缘磨损变粗糙而会刮衣袖。…….<o:p></o:p>
以下再省略一些有关这只品相欠佳的包金星座的详细介绍。<o:p></o:p>

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CTF3137 · 发表于 2009-12-7 22:08:00

看到第一只玫瑰金，直接无语了！（有钱能买到吗？）

Stop_Shen · 发表于 2009-12-7 22:11:00

卢兄的表个个都好眼熟阿！
一个字：靓!
跟一个

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LSB · 发表于 2009-12-7 22:09:00

喜欢这几只表                     

nbxdsh · 发表于 2009-12-8 15:09:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用fcts8866在2009-12-7 22:22:00的发言： 让人流口水的东东............... </div>

peterzhu · 发表于 2009-12-8 15:34:00

用心做学问，真的不容易啊！

行者无疆 · 发表于 2009-12-8 14:17:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用zzwzzw83在2009-12-8 9:02:00的发言： 用心的帖子 </div>

行者无疆 · 发表于 2009-12-8 14:17:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用OHSEAL在2009-12-8 9:02:00的发言： 
朋友的一只好壳,,,
 <img title="dvubb" border="0" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www.watchlead.com/bbs/skins/default/filetype/jpg.gif"/>此主题相关图片如下9758aa.jpg： <a href="http://www.watchlead.com/bbs/showimg.asp?BoardID=7&filename=2009-12/2009128915192375.jpg" target="_blank"><img style="WIDTH: 500px" title="dvubb" border="0" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www.watchlead.com/bbs/showimg.asp?BoardID=7&filename=2009-12/2009128915192375.jpg"/></a> </div>
是551那只吗

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